Formal vs Informal

Hello everybody!

Today I got to think about personal pronouns and how they are used differently according to the language you speak. I’ll clarify. I’m referring in particular to the personal pronouns (You-second person singular and plural/he/she) that we use in both formal and informal contexts. In our daily conversations using the correct form is important because it can denote intimacy, distance or higher/lower social rank. I speak four other languages, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese and Norwegian, and I’d like to explain very briefly below the use of these pronouns in formal vs informal situations.

In Italian, we use the pronoun lei (third person singular) in formal situations and we use it with people we don’t know, such as authorities or high-level professionals. In a conversation with friends and family, we use tu (you, second person singular) instead.

In Spanish, they use usted (you) as a formal pronoun. I’ve lived seven years in Spain and if you have ever had the chance to get to know Spanish people or live in their wonderful country you’ll have perhaps noticed how friendly these people are. In fact, even if the formal pronoun should have been used in formal situations, using an informal pronoun such tú (you) is still okay. But I did meet people, such as professors, who still like to use the formal way.

Instead, in some countries of Latin America, they still use usted even in informal instances or vos (you) from voseo (this is the use of the pronouns vos in place of tú or vosotros in combination with the verb conjugated in the 2nd person plural) .

In Norway, du (you) is always used no matter the context or social rank, like in English today. The form de is a very old form which is not used anymore, as thee in English.

In Portuguese, the general rule is the same as in Spanish : tu (you) for informal situations, você (you) for formal situations. But in Brasil they always use the formal way você/vocês (you-second person singular and plural) for both formal and informal situations. 

Personally, I like to use the informal way as in Norwegian and in English, I feel comfortable with it because I think that giving importance to social rank or expressing distance is not necessary.  Respect should not be defined by grammar or by the use of formal pronouns. We can respect someone simply by using the right words.

How amazing are languages? And how hard is it to learn and remember all those rules?

What do you prefer to use: formal or informal way? What do you think?

I would love to read your opinions.  

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Did you know that?

Hello Everyone and Welcome to Sunny Days!

Finally, we have some summer days here in Norway, and having them here is big news!

Today, I would like to share my thoughts on two articles that I have found particularly interesting lately:

Why Do People Throw Rice at Newlyweds?

According to an article I read online, in ancient times, cereals were considered a symbol of prosperity. Bread has always been a staple in our daily lives, and traditionally, brides would incorporate spikes of wheat into their hairstyles, while grooms would place a wheat pie on their heads to serve to guests after the ceremony. Guests would throw almonds and nuts at the newlyweds as a wish for children. Over time, dried fruit was replaced by rice, which continues to symbolize prosperity and abundance. Recently, petals of roses, soap bubbles, or feathers are also thrown to the bride and groom, as rice can sometimes get in their eyes or soil their dresses. Curious, isn’t it?

Why Are Pizza Boxes Square?

Another intriguing fact is the reason behind the square shape of pizza boxes. As children, we learned to recognize geometric shapes and fit them into the correct slots in educational toys. This might explain why the question “Why are pizza boxes square?” arises. Pizza makers often create round pizzas that are not perfectly circular. Placing these in square boxes allows for variances in size. Additionally, producing a square box is cheaper than a round one because it requires only one sheet of cardboard, whereas a round box would need two sheets plus extra time to cut the angles precisely. The side holes in square boxes are necessary to let steam escape, preventing the pizza from continuing to cook and becoming burnt. Interesting, isn’t it?

Learning new things, especially about everyday items we take for granted, is always fascinating.

I hope you enjoyed my post and have a wonderful summer, even in these unusual times.

Follow my posts and please share your opinions.

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Our everyday chats…

Hello Dear Readers,

I would like to start today’s article with a simple question: Is it just me who thinks that our smartphones rule our daily lives? When you think about it carefully, we don’t even need to use a computer anymore. With smartphones and their applications, as well as the most popular social media platforms, we can accomplish so much instantly. We can chat with friends all over the world, and because we live in a time where we want to do many things simultaneously and quickly, we often shorten words to save time.

I’d like to share some examples in the five languages I know to illustrate how amusing, yet at times stressful and sad, it can be for language enthusiasts to see grammar being neglected. But well! Win some, lose some…

For example, the proper word for “message” is abbreviated as “msg.” So, “Can I send u a msg?” should be “Can I send you a message?

Italian:

Text: Ciao! Cm stai? T posso kiam dopo? C ved fra 2 gg. Tvttb.

Full Sentence: Ciao! Come stai? Ti posso chiamare dopo? Ci vediamo fra due giorni. Ti voglio tanto tanto bene.

(Hi! How are you? Can I call you later? See you in two days. I love you so so much.)

Text: Xo Xké fai cs?

Full Sentence: Però perché fai così?

(But why do you act like this?)

Spanish:

Text: Wenas! bno ntp! ns vms dsps!

Full Sentence: Buenas tardes! Bueno no te preocupes! Nos vemos después!

(Good afternoon! Well, don’t worry! See you later!)

Text: Tkm, pr q sepas! xoxo

Full Sentence: Te quiero mucho, para que sepas! Besos y abrazos.

(I love you so much, just to let you know! Hugs and kisses)

English:

Text: Hi! How r u? TGIF!!! LOL

Full Sentence: Hi! How are you? Thank God it’s Friday!!! Laughing out loud

Text: TYVM 4 ur help! ILU!

Full Sentence: Thank you very much for your help! I love you!

Portuguese:

Text: Pdc, acho q vc está certo!

Full Sentence: Pode crer, acho que você está certo!

(You can believe it, I think you are right!)

Text: Te digo a vdd: tenho sdds d vc!!!

Full Sentence: Te digo a verdade: tenho saudades de você!!!

(I tell you the truth: I miss you!!!)

Norwegian:

Text: Ifht hva du sier, r d ikke mulig å gjøre d pga stedet.

Full Sentence: i forhold til hva du sier, er det ikke mulig å gjøre det på grunn av stedet.

(According to what you say, it is not possible to do that because of the place.)

Text: R de 3 elns? Også hvor r de?

Full Sentence: Er de tre eller noe sånt? Også hvor er de?

(Are they three or something like that? And also, where are they?)

As you can see, with this method, we create new vocabulary every day. However, it may not be quite understandable for everyone. Sometimes, I think it is better to value a single moment and take a minute to write a complete message.

Isn’t it better to read “I LOVE YOU” instead of “I LUV U”? Think about it!

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We don’t speak Italian!

The Evolution of Modern Italian: An International Influence

It is evident that the Italian we speak today has become quite international, primarily due to our habit of incorporating numerous foreign words into our daily conversations. As a result, it often doesn’t sound like a purely national language anymore. We adopt many loanwords from different cultures, not only because they are concise and help us communicate more quickly, but also because they make us appear “cool.” By “cool,” I mean sophisticated in our linguistic abilities, and our globalized society requires us to demonstrate our open-mindedness.

We frequently mix different languages into our own, such as:

Italian: Ci sentiamo questo weekend? Così ti mando il link del file che mi hai chiesto.

Translation: Shall we call each other this weekend? So I can send you the link of the file you asked me.

Italian: Ho bisogno di una babysitter.

Translation: I need a babysitter.

Italian: Dobbiamo trovare una bella location questo weekend per fare delle foto.

Translation: We have to find a nice location this weekend to take some pictures.

In these examples, approximately 30-50% of the sentences are in English, even though we are speaking Italian. The amusing part is that each of these words has a proper Italian translation, which we rarely use:

Weekend: fine settimana

Link: collegamento

File: cartella

Babysitter: tata

Location: posto, luogo

As you can see, we have numerous opportunities to elevate our language by using these Italian terms in our everyday speech. However, we often prefer the foreign words, possibly because we have become somewhat Americanized!

We might consider following the example of Spanish speakers, who translate almost everything from English to Spanish. They do this out of nationalism and a strong desire to preserve and promote their national language.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you mix different languages in your speech as well?

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What do they say/do?

When we Italians listen to someone who is explaining something we don’t understand, we say: “They are speaking Arabic!”; Spanish say: “They are speaking Chinese!”; Brazilians, Norwegians and English say: “They are speaking Greek!/This is Greek to me!”. It is curious right? Each of these three languages is complicated grammatically and culturally, they are three different worlds. Continue reading “What do they say/do?”